that is all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez, i want to thank you for spending part of your saturday with us. be sure to follow the show across social media, our handle is at least you on msnbc. i'll see you back here tomorrow for more american voices. but for now, i handed over to my friend, eamonn mohyeldin. hello a man. >> haley. shop thank you so much, i appreciate it as always. enjoy the rest of your evening off. welcome to ayman. tonight, trump's on trial. what we learned from the testimonies of don junior and eric trump, and the explosive

drama involving the judge in the case. plus, can the ex president be disqualified for running for office? that argument was put to the test in a colorado courtroom this week. and taking action, senate democrats are set to subpoena influential conservatives. those with close ties to supreme court justices. i'm ayman, let's get started. >> it was a family affair for the trumps in new york this week. two of the disgraced ex presidents sons took to the stand to testify. in attorney general letitia james to under 50 million dollar civil lawsuit against the trump family and their company. first up was donald trump junior, co-chief of his father's business empire. the ex presidents eldest son faced repeated questions about his role at the trump organization, especially as it related to financial statements that the attorney general says

were purposely inflated to benefit the company. now, trump jr. did his best to try, i guess, and distance himself from those statements. saying he relied on outside accountants and the trump organization's former chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, to prepare them. now, when he was pressed by a lawyer for the attorney generals office about his role in the preparation of an annual statement of financial condition, that outlined his father's wealth, trump jr. did not admit any involvement. he actually quipped back, saying the accountants worked on it. that's what we paid them for. and then it was eric trump's turn on the stand. the attorney general's lawsuit describes trump's second son has been responsible for all aspects of management and operation of the trump organization. now, despite that role, eric trump pushed back against questions about his involvement in his father's financial statements. repeatedly saying, quote, i

pour concrete, i operate properties, i put focus on appraisals. but it appears that eric wasn't able to hold his cool as well as his older brother. according to our nbc news reporter who was inside that courtroom, erik got testy, even raised his voice as the attorney generals office pressed him on his involvement. in just a short timeafter he testified that he had, quote, never worked on the trump orgazation's statements of financial condition, and that he, quote, didn't know anything about it until recently. andrew aim or from the attorney general's team was able to get eric toadmit on the stand, in front of everyone, that he was aware, even as far back as 2030. msnbc legal analyst lisa reuben dubbed thettorney generals office approach, the eric trump strategy. now, as ruben explains, a more wanted to establish that eric trump knew that his dad had

statements of financial condition. statements that were used in connection with financing and acquisitions. and perhaps most importantly, that trump organization employees sought and obtained information from eric trump personally, for use in valuing assets in those statements. and by doing so, and highlighting eric's representations to the contrary at his deposition and on the stand, he was actually able to expose trump's clear credibility issues for everyone. so, without directly calling him a liar, the attorney generals office got trump's son to concede that his claim that he had zero knowledge of or involvement in the financial statements was, as reuben writes, quote, at best based on a very faulty memory. at worst, constituted deliberate falsehoods. now, the impact of this testimony from both donald trump jr. and eric trump is still to be determined.

but the rescuers actually very high. there are statements in court this week that have the potential to not only seal their own fates, but the fate of their father as well. all of this, simultaneously jeopardizing the future of their family empire here in new york. let's bring in my panel for this conversation. suzanne craig, an investigative reporter and msnbc contributor. christine greer, political scientist and associate professor of political science at fordham university, and -- msnbc legal analyst. it's great to have all three of you with us. i'd like to start with you, you were there in the courtroom this week. a lot of drama, i would say. but give me from your vantage point the takeaways of where the trial went, following the testimonies of don junior and eric trump? >> i think that it was interesting, because eric really was, and i saw this at the opening, it was devastating

to watch. it was just the repetition of email after email saying that he was involved in these appraisals. after he had said in his deposition last year in front of the attorney general, he really didn't have any involvement. you have to step back and say, okay, they are saying they have no involvement, what were they doing? they should know what these financial statements. are they should be very much in command of them. they're running this company, especially eric trump. he was the trump that was on the ground day-to-day. for all of his father's presence, so that's sort of not quite where we left it on friday, because after the testimony wrapped up, there was more butting heads about the law clerks, what the law clerk -- and from the get-go, trump has made an issue of her. he's claiming she's biased, she's a democratic operative, and she has no business being on this case. the law clerk, for people who don't know, she sits right next to the judge. she's doing her job, but they

can for a lot as part of the trial. she sits there, they talk, and it's just driving team trump crazy. they just decided that this is going to be their issue, and trump has been fined not once but twice already. and on friday, there was more back and forth about it and the job just lost it. the lawyers were going after her again, and he wanted the gag order to include any comments that they make as well about the law clerk, that they could be sanctioned for. >> absolutely incredible that they're even going after it. >> it's just like a political issue, i don't think this is going to fare well with the appeals court. they're doing it i think for political points. >> they're playing for the jury that's outside the courtroom at this moment. catherine, let me get your thoughts on this. you've got donald junior and eric both trying to distance themselves from these documents that exonerated their fathers network. they're doing it in classic trump fashion. blame everybody about yourself, blaney accountants, blame

everybody that's involved. based on what we saw this week, how likely is that defense strategy of pointing the fingers to someone else, likely to 60? >> it's a losing strategy, first of, all accountants prepare financial statements and tax returns based on the information and that their clients give them. if the clients give them false information, the tax returns and financial statements will be false. so to say i don't know, it was my accountants, it's not a defense that's going to work. not with this judge, and not with the appellate court. and the attorneys were very prepared for the answers of don and eric, with documents after documents. i'm surprised that they were not prepared that anything they say is going to be a financial statement with their signature on it. there's going to be an email that's going to have someone talking about a discussion they had with eric gordon. so their testimony was not helpful in anyway, for their

case. not for them, not for their father, not for the trump organization. >> christina, let me go back to suzanne's point here about how the trump world has been trying to describe this, because we got a glimpse of that after -- you had eric trump echoing the rhetoric of his father, calling this case a political witch hunt. and i just want to play for our viewers about a little more. take a listen. >> they dragged john and i, they only want our names in this thing because a sensationalized is the case. we've done absolutely nothing wrong, we have a parent company. >> again, the facts are that donald junior, erik, ivanka, they all held high-level positions within their fathers company. how do his cries, christina, of collateral damage, notch up with the reality that we are seeing? they aren't helpless children here, they're grown adults who held executive positions in a multi billion dollar company. >> amen, let's not forget, they

held major positions in the u.s. government as well, when their father was president. which makes me shudder. but, as susan said, this sort of chaos strategy. let's try and distract from the reality at hand. the emails are there. the kids say they have received -- well, the judge is biased. now the clerk is biased. it's just a witch hunt on our family. but anyone who's lived in new york knows that the trump organization has always leaned on the line of legality, and they've always skirted the law. trump said so himself when he was campaigning. only fools pay taxes. so we know that there's something there, and eric trump, because he had such a bad day in court, is now going to say this is just a witch hunt for my family. but there are some real concerns, and obviously the a.g.'s office would not bring these types of charges against a former president and his entire family if they weren't sure that there is something that is tangible. and we do know that don junior and eric have always been seeking their father's approval.

we know, i'm sure, there's depositions that we're doubling down on making sure that whatever their father said, they said as well. but things get a little different when you're on the stand and your being questioned under oath. in a deposition, you are still obliged to tell the truth. when you're on the stand, and someone is presenting real receipts in front of you, and we see the narratives changing, then you go outside of the courtroom to the court of public opinion, and you are trying to make your case in that way. and as catherine said, that's not going to cut it. >> one of the interesting things, susan, and i think not all of our viewers are necessarily in the weeds on the details of this case, but if you are just to listen to the defense of trump, you'd see that there is no nefarious intention. that this was a victimless crime. the prosecution put on the stand, an expert witness, a banking expert, who basically said that as a result of these allegations, the trump world saved about 100 $68 million.

which is a substantial amount of money that banks and lenders ultimately lost out on. so this is not a -- we're not talking about a victimless crime here, or something that is crumbs. we're talking about a significant amount of money that was -- that banks were defrauded of. >> that's right. i think on monday, donald trump takes the stand, you're going to hear an argument, that's going to be one of the arguments for this. it's going to be that all the -- no harm no foul. all the banks got paid back. but what the expert did is he showed just on four properties, because these false statements went in with these inflated values, some of them just ridiculous, the banks -- and there's been testimony that -- that they were shortchanged some 100 $68 million. it could've been a lot more money if the rates went actually with what this expert said they should have been. we're going to see at the end that there's no receiver over

the company, because he's always -- already lost and summary judgment. eventually, you're going to see a fine. right now the attorney generals looking for $250 million. you're going to see asset sales likely to meet that. donald trump is going to have to write a check at some point for a large amount. this is going to sneak through the appeals court, it's going to take some time, but at the end there is going to be a large -- >> let me ask you quickly about something you brought up in the first answer. that's the gag order. just how likely is that going to be, that he's going to follow the judges gag orders? what's the consequence if he does it? >> it's interesting, because i'm canadian, and i'm sort of a rule follower. every time it happens, i think it's never going to happen again. because i would never do anything like that. but every time we see it -- >> some americans would actually agree with you. most americans would follow the orders of a judge, especially if it is a gag order. that's not a canadian thing. most americans would agree with that. it's a uniquely trump thing to

ignore gag orders. >> it's like, sometimes it's like everything goes. i just can't believe it every time. but i always think, it's never going to happen again. and now it does. and this gag order husband apply to his lawyers as well. i think everybody is going to be watching on monday, every time he opens his mouth. is he violating the gag order again? >> incredible. we'll have to wait and see. thank you so much. christine and catherine, please stick around. i've got a lot more to talk to you about after the break. we're going to discuss the efforts to keep donald trump off of the 2024 ballots in critical battleground states. thank you. critical battleground states thank you. at first, i used better than bouillon for broth. and then stir fry... sauces... even marinades! and now there's the culinary collection! italian herb for pasta... smoky chipotle for fajitas... it's like the deliciousness never ends! make everything better with better than bouillon!

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that because trump incited his supporters to attack the capitol on january the 6th, he cannot hold any political office again. trump lawyers wanted the case thrown out, arguing that he was protected by the thirst amendment. judge -- a similar case has just started in minnesota to keep trump off that states ballot. trump's allies are fuming over the unprecedented nature of this challenge to his candidacy. but as frank the clues he told my colleague nicole wallace, that comment is actually the height of hypocrisy. >> the very same people, the extremists on the violent right, who tried to convince secretaries of state that they had the authority to overturn the election, pick alternate states of electors, are now, if i understand this right, in michigan at least, saying the secretary of state has no authority. it's a perversion of justice and rule of law. >> let's bring back catherine

christian and christina greer into the conversation. catherine, i'll start with you, and the arguments that my colleague here frank was making on nicole's show. what do you make of that? does this colorado suit and others like it have marriage? what do you make of trump's defense that his words are protected by the first amendment and that secretaries of state do not have this power? >> well, the problem for the plaintiffs is that the secretaries of state, i believe in those states, have said we don't have this power. this has never been tested in any court. it's section three of the 14th amendment, basically, ended bars anyone who is engaged in an insurrection or rebellion from holding in office. but the question with the issue is, one, he was going to make the determination of what an insurrection or rebellion's, the plaintiffs says it's sort of self executing and the secretary of states will do that. to, is the president and office

that is referred to, it's not specifically stated in that section that it's the president, but trump himself is arguing that in his civil suits, when he tried to get them removed, from federal fort and criminal court. but also, he has not been convicted. and it's a criminal conviction for insurrection. remember, the special counsel did not charge donald trump with insurrection or seditious conspiracy. the, a number of the january 6th people were tried for seditious conspiracy and convicted. oath keepers and proud boys leaders have been convicted for what happened on january 6th. so, the judge has said we're going to move on. she did not grant a directed verdict, which would have dismissed the case. but there are legal arguments for both sides. many people for both sides say just let the public decide whether they want him to be on the ballot. but what he did allegedly, if

-- on january 6th, is very troubling. and people have -- and are serving time now for seditious conspiracy and for acts that happened on january 6th. they did what they did because he cold them to their that day. >> yeah, you bring up a lot of the important legal questions about what qualifies a candidate to have committed seditious conspiracy, if that person has not been charged with that crime. christina, the watchdog group citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington, or crew, and several forms, they filed this suit on behalf of six republican and unaffiliated voters. not democratic voters, we should note. does that sound like a partisan witch hunt to you? trump and his allies are saying, or do you think that that was just more of political cain's been ship on behalf of this organization, to bring this lawsuit forward? just kind of pull the rug from underneath trump on that one argument? >> i think it's the latter, a man. sadly, we've seen a few things. one, donald trump and his

supporters consistently moving the goalposts. when it suits them. to, we haven't seen the republican party at large stand up and talk about january 6th in a way that govern laid out. yes, we're still talking about both sides. well, did he say they should come, and what did this mean, and we're still pursuing through it. immediately after january 6th, we did have quite a few republicans say this is unacceptable. we could never have a president of the united states say these things, try to incite this type of violence. and then we see overtime we swiftly have moved away from those trick -- statements, and they're following in line behind donald trump. for political gain in 2022, and political gain in 2024. with the lack of leadership in the republican party, it makes these conversations much more difficult, because we still have a significant number of people within the party who don't think anything was wrong

on january 6th. and so we've seen the consistent erosion of our democratic principles because of that. not just because of the actions of donald trump, because of the inaction of his party in holding him accountable. >> catherine, trump's team has called colorado congressman ken buck to testify. interestingly enough, he has been critical of trump recently. but he's also been critical of the january 6th committee, which, to your earlier point about determining what role donald trump played in this, is significant. could he be beneficial for prosecutors, or detrimental to their case? it might be down the middle. let's not forget that three of donald trump's lawyers who are involved with the election fraud, i'll call it, scam. particularly in georgia, have pled guilty. ken chesebro, sydney powell, and jenna ellis. they were three who were involved with -- can chesebro was creating this fake electors scheme, jenna

ellis was on the traveling team with rudy giuliani through georgia, spreading lies about election fraud, and sidney powell was involved with the voting machine scam. so the lawyers who were involved with this whole fraud talk that turned out to be false, about him winning the election when he really lost it, have already pled guilty. so i think that congressman buck, he may not have liked the committee, but he clearly is not one of the election deniers. and that's what the january 6th, all of what happened on that date was about. it was donald trump getting these people there to storm the capitol, because of his false claims that he won the election. so i don't think the congressman will be helpful to donald trump, or hurtful to the plaintiffs. >> all right, catherine and christina, please stick around. i'm going to squeeze in a quick break. up next, senate democrats are

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luxury trips that thomas had taken for more than two decades, that were all funded or paid for by harlan crow. and an undisclosed luxury fishing trip alito took with robin or flee back in 2008. that was also coordinated by leonard leo. christina greer and catherine christian are back with me, joining the conversation as well is elissa grace, founder and executive director of true north research and former chief counsel of nominations on the senate judiciary committee. it's great to have you join me on this conversation. i'll start with you, lisa. you've been instrumental in exposing these brick billionaires influence on the court. are we finally beginning to see this dark money web unravel, or at least come to light, and what is at stake if the justices and the donors involved in this don't face any repercussions for these alleged actions? >> this is a really important step forward, and i certainly applaud the efforts by -- and senator -- in moving forward with

subpoenas. because every person has an obligation to comply with subpoenas. there is no special privilege for billionaire friends of supreme court justices, or people who help get people installed in the supreme court, like leonard leo. and the arguments that these individuals have made to a -- assail us and its right to investigate these evidences of corruption from these reporters. their claims are just baseless, and in fact ludicrous to -- them to secretly influence these supreme court justices, pay for their luxury life style, and that congress can do nothing. this is a big step forward. obviously there are more steps that need to be taken, but this is a really important step forward because the american people get it by huge numbers. democrats, republicans, and independents agree that the senate judiciary committee has to investigate this stench. this corruption, this cloud of corruption surrounding the supreme court, in particular justice thomas and justice alito as well. >> let's talk about the

subpoenas for a moment. -- they've already come up with statements denouncing the senate judiciary move to subpoena them. if and when they are issued, how could the democrats go about enforcing it, given the lessons we learned from january the 6th? we know that donors have been stonewalling efforts to disclose any information, and we've seen how congressional subpoenas can be ignored. >> well, if you serve a subpoena, you have to comply. if you don't, you could be held in contempt of congress. they've thumbed their nose at congress, and they're calling this a witch hunt. but the subpoenas are very important, and normal people, who aren't billionaires, who don't have yachts that they offer, trips to supreme court justices would have to comply with the subpoena. and it should be known, the ordinance should known that federal judges who are in the trial courts and appellate court have a code of conduct that they have to abide by. state judges have a code of conduct.

only supreme court justices do not have an ethical code of conduct that they have to abide by. and it's time that they have won. you, know there are three branches of government. the arguments that chief justice roberts says that will take care of ourselves, it's important that if you can have confidence in the supreme court decisions, that the senate judiciary find out what the people that have interests for the court. if they can give gifts and have prior relationships with these justices, what is that about? and is that really justice? is that fairness? and all the justice has to do is recuse herself. or himself. you know, i went on a yacht trip with this person, i have a relationship with this person, clearly i can't be fair and impartial on this particular case. so it's very important if you want to have confidence in the supreme court decisions, to know that they're not being bought by people who have interests before them. because they have private

school tuition paid for for a family member. you don't do gifts like that unless you are a family member or a close personal front, unless you want something in return. that's just how it works. it's silly to think that they didn't want something in return for doing that. they're not close personal friends, and they're not family members. >> to that point, christina, the point that catherine just brought up about the code of conduct, the ethical code of conduct. senator durbin has pointed out that chief justice john robert couldn't act a code of conduct today, and three justices, elena kagan, -- have publicly stated that the court should, or would adopt a code of ethics. what is justice roberts waiting for here? why does he not do this? >> i don't know, a, man why he's vacillating on this. because it's very clear that public opinion in the united states is waiting on the court. because they no longer have full confidence that we can

trust that the cases that are coming before the court it's already predetermined, just because of the relationships that these justices had. so much of the supreme court, we realized, has been based on norms. people behaving in a particular way and recusing themselves. that hasn't been the case with these two particular justices in question. it is incumbent upon john roberts to move forward, especially since you have the support of three of his colleagues. because, we know that especially justice thomas, he doesn't recuse himself. especially when he has relationships with people who are coming before the court. and it's only eroding the public's confidence and trust in the court, and we know that the court cases that are coming before the courts are getting more polarizing, more important, as it seems as though this particular conservative court relishes in taking rights away from americans, as opposed to expanding our various rights. >> lisa, i want to get your thoughts on this argument that we hear time and time again. the justice branch, including

the supreme court, a separate but coequal branch of government, therefore congress does not have the power to impose ethics rules on the court. that is something harlan crow head said in the past. as someone who has excessively worked in court policy, break down that argument for us. that the supreme court and the judicial branch in our government, in our constitution, basically does not have oversight. because on our -- its surface, that seems fundamentally flawed that there be a branch in government that has no oversight. >> it applies in the face of checks and balances that are fundamental to the constitution, but also it applies in the basis of history. there are hundreds of filings by supreme court justices, following, or at least saying that they're following that ethics and government act. that statute has been on since 1978, and it's been unquestioned that it applies to supreme court justices. it's only recently, as these misdeeds have been exposed, as

this extraordinary influence peddling by these billionaires, who aren't just billionaires, the billionaires that fund groups that -- to change our rights. it's only now that suddenly there is an assertion that congress has no power to regulate these justices. every justice on this supreme court has filed those forms, and they certified under civil and criminal counts that those forms are accurate. but we know that they're not, based on this reporting. and it's not just the government ethics act. the judiciary act of 1789 was passed by congress on the first -- to create procedures for the court, including the forum rules for the supreme court. so it's literally been hundreds of years where congress has exercised its authority over the, court -- impeached justices in the court. so this notion that leonard leo and his lawyers have cooked up, and that david ripken supposedly interviewed alito about in the wall street journal, and leo's lawyer,

where alito gives this opinion that supposedly congress has no power over the court, it's absurd. it applies in the case of history and the actual attestations of these very justices. that they have been saying that they have to follow these rules, and certifying that they are following these rules. >> as i would say, it also flies in the face of common sense to any american who would think that the judicial branch does not have any kind of oversight by congress on it. lisa graves, christina greer, catherine christian, thank you so much. i appreciate your time this evening. >> next, we are changing pace. tens of thousands of demonstrators converged on the nation's capital, and cities all around the world, to demand a cease-fire in israel's war on hamas. in israel's war o hamas. hamas. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended

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demand a cease-fire in gaza, as the death toll there now climbed passed 9200, and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu turned away american requests for humanitarian pause in the fighting. -- member of the palestinian youth movement told nbc news earlier. >> this is really a historic march for us. it is the largest palestine march in u.s. history. it took weeks of planning, of course, we are trying to move as quickly as possible, and react to an unfolding genocide on our people. we have people from all across the country, and also people have been flown in, driven in, so really it's a historic moment. it shows that there is a turning tide in the context of the palestinian struggle in the united states. >> similar protests spans the globe, with thousands marching in paris, london, and berlin.

this weekend, we want to highlight an issue that hasn't been covered as much since the war began. and that is the significant increase in israeli settler violence, and threats against palestinians in the occupied west bank. i spoke with laura michaels forward about what is happening there on the ground in the west bank. >> michael, thank you so much for joining us. i want to start with what is happening in the west bank, obviously. we have seen a settler violence there against palestinians in the occupied west bank skyrocketing. it is been going on for decades, but since october 7th, it has escalated to record levels. according to -- the israeli human rights organization, at least seven palestinians now have been killed by israeli settlers since the war in gaza. another 100 palestinians have been killed by israeli forces over the same period. what is happening right now in the west bank, as you see it? >> first of, all thank you for having me on the show and thank

you for watching this. during the fog of war, in light of the international community, we're focused on gaza. the israeli public as well on the atrocities that hamas has committed on october 7th. settlers, and with a lot of aid from the israeli's army, are exploiting that time. exploiting that everything is eclipsed by the happenings in gaza. and the number of violent events that they are targeting small communities, mainly small remote hamlets of either bed wings or hurting communities in such areas that are not very densely populated, like the jordan valley. they do stuff that they have wanted to do for years, and that is to cleanse these areas from palestinians. grab there -- and they do it by coercive

measures, by enormous violence that is repeated night after night until people are leaving their homes. the israeli human rights organization has documented more than 170 different violence events by settlers against palestinian communities, palestinian families, from october 7th. that is not all of the events, that's only the ones that have been reported. but that's a lot, and the number and the severity is just skyrocketing. as you said, there over 15 different communities have either entirely or partially been transferred, have been coerced to leave their lands where they've and habited for decades. and settlers have been taking over their lands. this is absolutely horrifying.

>> is this something that, based on your experience and your career working on this and working with other organizations, is this something that is a new phenomenon? or is this a continuation of a decades old -- that seems to be accelerating, because the world's attention, is real's attention, human rights organizations attention, is on gaza? >> it's absolutely the continuation of a policy that accelerates the same trend that we've seen in the last two decades. by the way, every time there was an assault on gaza, and in recent years, we had several of them. every time, why the assault is ongoing on gaza, the settlers in the west bank are doing the same. but this time, and from the three decades that i've been following these issues very intensively and very intimately, i've never seen anything like that. this is now a strategic issue,

with is really forces, sometimes standing idly by. but sometimes even hoping the settlers. these are the kinds of testimonies we get from the ground. this is all part of a big plan that is based on a jewish supremacy ideology. i mean is really, i'm jewish, and i'm pretty much ashamed to say that. but the truth has to be told. this is not just a quarrel over territory. it's about a very racist ideology. and with a goal in mind of having official, legally supported jewish supremacy. a regime between the jordan river and this. >> let me ask, you do you see it -- your area of expertise and all of your years working in this field, do you see what is happening in gaza and in the west bank, two different sides of the same coin of what you just described? use the word cleansing of

palestinians in the best -- west bank, and you're talking about establishing jewish supremacy from the river to the city. do you see the same fight in different ways? >> look, it is one conflict. the israeli palestinian conflict has been with us for more than 100 years, and this is all different fronts of the same conflict. there are people who see those two, all of the land as one category. all of the palestinians as one. i would be hesitant to say that this is exactly the same, because when it comes to gaza, there was a vicious attack, where hundreds of israelis were butchered and more than 240 were kidnapped. children and women, so i think it is a different there. people in the west bank, unprovoked, are being attacked. they're being attacked by israeli civilians, mainly.

also, by the army. but i think that it's not really the same, but it is all part of the same conflict. the fact that we're not wise enough, generous enough, to find a long-lasting solution that would provide for civil rights to be materialized for all the residents of this land, between the jordan river and the sea, it creates all different kinds of atrocities, ands i can only hope that things will change after this war is over. >> michael, let me ask you quickly. with this violence that is happening in the west bank, where do you see the situation heading right now? where -- what does it tell us about what is on the horizon, do you think? >> i think that if we don't get a grip of ourselves, and with the aids of people around the world to put pressure on the israeli government to do something about this phenomenon

that is just a horrifying scale, we will see thousands of palestinians already, those who have been displaced reaches more than 1000. a third of them children. these people have nowhere to go. they are the weakest of the weakest communities between the jordan river and the sea. they are the main hurting communities living in tense, and buildings. if nothing stops the settlers, because i know how these things happen, if no one stops them, it will only escalate. when the settlers see that they can get away with these things, the extreme segments of the settler community, they will only escalate and they will find it as a tailwind for their crimes. >> michael so far, i appreciate you taking time and speaking to us this evening.

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